An insider speaks out
`We have people who steal from investors and nothing happens,' says former OTTP chief
executive
December 03, 2007
TYLER HAMILTON TORONTO STAR
BUSINESS REPORTER
Claude Lamoureux, the retired chief executive of the Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan, has been
stalwart in the fight for better corporate governance, as well as a vocal critic of Canada's track
record on investigating, prosecuting and convicting white-collar crooks.
In a frank interview with the Toronto Star, Lamoureux holds no punches. There's been too much
talk about what's wrong with securities law enforcement in Canada and not enough action, he
says, arguing that the Ontario government has done little to achieve real change that will protect
investors.
His recommendation? Heed the advice of Osgoode Hall law professor Marilyn Pilkington and
former Supreme Court of Canada justice Peter Cory, whose report for the recent task force to
modernize securities legislation has fallen on deaf ears.
The Star: There's been a lot of focus recently on the small number of securities fraud convictions
in Canada compared with the United States. What's your view on this?
Lamoureux: To me, it demonstrates we take this very lightly. We've spent $120 million (on the
Integrated Market Enforcement Team) and have nothing to show for it. The crime in all of this is
our legislators. The legislators should pass laws that make it easier to convict people who steal
from investors. We can talk all we want, though we just had an election in Ontario and the
Pilkington-Cory report is out. Did we hear one word about this? There was not one word about
this report that cost $8 million.
The Star: Who needs to spearhead this change in Ontario?
Lamoureux: I think it should be the attorney-general, or it should be the party. We can talk
about health and we can talk about education, but (market fraud) is very important because it
touches everybody in the province. We have people who steal from investors and nothing
happens.
The Star: The Pilkington-Cory report, among its many recommendations, argues that authorities
need better tools to crack down on white-collar fraud. It also points out the need for judges that
specialize in securities law and related crimes. Do you agree with those recommendations?
Lamoureux: When a judge one day hears a divorce in court and the next day has to look at an
insider-trading case, it's tough to understand that's a crime. There's nobody hurt. Nobody is
crying. It's just a group of investors who lost some money.
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The Star: The Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan has been quite active in suing companies, as well
as leading class-action lawsuits, but many of these legal actions have taken place south of the
border. Is this a statement on the Canadian system?
Lamoureux: We've sued a few corporations, Nortel being one of them, in the U. S. Why?
Because our lawyers say it doesn't make sense to waste our time in Canada. I don't make this
up. Our lawyers essentially tell us, you want to have a chance of winning and getting something
done? Go to the U.S.
The Star: What, in your view, explains this?
Lamoureux: Maybe we have too many people who say this is just a job; I don't care whether I
win or lose. Maybe there's not enough pride in the job. But at the same time, if the law is too
tough, the level of proof is too tough ... Maybe we get what we deserve.
The Star: So how do we go about improving the situation?
Lamoureux: The problem is that our legislative process is caught in the 19th century. What is
being done of the serious work that needs to be done? There's a lot of time being wasted. To me,
you go to Cory and Pilkington, and you start with their report. Implementing this will go a long
way to getting us on the map.
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